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Landmarkism Under Fire
A Study of Landmark Baptist
by Elder J.C. Settlemoir Chapter 7 - A Challenge Issued In the book Scriptural Church Organization the author issued this challenge: What they need to prove the new hypothesis is to show that three baptized members constituted themselves into a church with no connection to another church and without a missionary.[217] The Challenge Accepted This is quite a challenge. He requires us to find a case where a church was organized without connection to another church (he means EMDA) and without a missionary. While we do not argue that churches do not have connections with other churches nor that preachers or missionaries have no part in constitution, yet, we can supply this request and gladly do so. But before I do, let me emphasize two points. First, if I can supply just one case of a church constituted without EMDA, then that answers the challenge. For if a preacher was present at a constitution but EMDA was not given, that is a false constitution according to EMDA defenders. And if a historian records such a constitution, without a disclaimer, that indicates EMDA was not considered an essential by that historian. Secondly, even if a preacher was present at the constitution of a church, that does not prove it was constituted with EMDA. EMDA cannot be assumed but must be proved to be the essential method of constitution among Baptists. This cardinal point has eluded EMDA advocates. Now for the gauntlet. In Christian’s History he quotes Bond’s History of Mississippi Baptists concerning the Salem Baptist church: This community was called the This is the position for which we contend. Let the reader bear in
mind that Elder John Bond, the author of this History, referred to by Christian
was a noted Baptist and a co-laborer with J.R. Graves and other leading men of
that day.[219] And
this opinion of Bond was not an isolated opinion. In spite of the constant
animadverting about our position not being Landmarkism but “neo Landmarkism,”
“apostate Landmarkism” “liberal Landmarkism” or a “new hypothesis”[220]
we learn from this noted Baptist that our position was the same thing these old
Baptists contended for! It is the same thing Jarrel, Graves, Pendleton, Now here is the dilemma for those who contend for EMDA. Neither
Bond nor Christian say a word about It is also interesting that Bro Cockrell in SCO quoted this very account of the constitution of the First Baptist church in Mississippi but from a book by Leavell & Bailey[221] and they do not give this quote by Bond. Let me give another example. This from a church constituted in COVENANT “Whereas: In the providence of God, a few names of us, the professed followers of Christ, who hold to one Faith, one Lord, and one Baptism, having been thrown together in these wilds of the West, and being members of churches in the United States, desirous of keeping the worship of God in our neighborhood, and in our families, -- We agree that we hereby constitute and come into union, first giving ourselves unto the Lord. and then unto each other, we do covenant and agree that we will meet together to worship God and keep the commandments and ordinances of God’s house, and are hereby constituted into a church.[222] We note here they did not have any authority from any church. They did not even have church letters![223] There was no preacher among them! Yet they constituted themselves into a church according to good Baptist practice. Were they a true church? Christ’s Word says they were! Do these cases meet the challenge as given? Here is another example. Of the formation of the Baptist church and the reasons for it Gould himself gives an account. A small section of his narrative is here transcribed as follows: Now after this, considering with myself what the Lord would have me to do; not likely to join with any of the churches of New England, and so to be without the ordinance of Christ; in the meantime God sent out of Old England some who were Baptists; we, consulting together what to do, sought the Lord to direct us, and taking counsel of other friends who dwelt among us, who were able and godly, they gave us counsel to congregate ourselves together; and so we did, being nine of us, to walk in the order of the gospel according to the rule of Christ....after we had been called into two courts, the church [protestant church at Cambridge] understanding that we were gathered into church order..... ‘The organization of this Baptist church caused a great noise
throughout Please consider. This group did not have authority from any church.
They did not have an ordained man among them. They did not have authority from
the churches in Benedict discusses the constitution of this church also. He says: But about this time, says this afflicted man [Gould], some
Baptist friends from Now what was wrong with this church? The principle thing was that it did not have authority, as Benedict, quoting others, tells us, but it was not EMDA but the authority from the Protestants! It would take a volume, says Morgan Edwards, to contain an account of all their suffering for ten or twelve years. The burden of all their complaints were that they had formed a church without the approbation of the ruling powers. ‘This principle,’ says Mr. Neale, ‘condemns all the dissenting
congregations which have been formed in They did not obtain authority from the “ruling powers” that is, the powers of the political system. But this is not all. Neither did they obtain any kind of authority from any Baptist church! It is also essential to consider that not one of the Baptist historians who mention this account censure them for what they did nor for the way they did it. This speaks volumes for the method of self constitution of churches among Baptists but it dooms the idea of EMDA. This idea is not mentioned because not even thought of by these writers.[228] Why not? But I venture to give other
examples of a churches constituted without connection to another church and
without an ordained man present and this from the NT! The church at The Church at Is it not interesting that EMDA advocates never mention the church
at The Scripture says: When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. Acts 11:18. Now here is an account of a church which did not get EMDA and was
scripturally formed without it. They did not have mother-church authority but
the authority they did have came directly from Christ just as Christ Himself
taught that it would![231]
The church did not send Peter but the Spirit said “Arise therefore, and get
thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.”[232]
Then when Peter got to the house of Cornelius as he preached unto him and his
house the Holy Spirit fell on this group exactly as it did on the Jerusalem
church on Pentecost (vs. 17) even before they were baptized! And there seems to
be no question that this was the beginning of the church at We carefully note that the Holy Spirit is not tied to EMDA as its
advocates claim! For the church in In fact, I will go even further. There is not a church mentioned in
the NT which had EMDA as far as the biblical record is concerned. If they did,
the Bible says nothing about it! The NT does not record a single instance of
EMDA! Not one! The churches of In the Philadelphia Associational Minutes for October 5th, 1791 we have another account: The new constituted church at Sideling Hill, Belfast township, Bedford county, made application for admittance into this Association; but an objection arising, in consequence of a letter sent by Brother Powell, their admission was postponed until next meeting of Association, when the objectors will have opportunity to show their reason, why the request of said church should not be granted.[236] Again the next year the Association took up this matter: An application was again made by the newly constituted church at Sideling Hill to be admitted into connection with this Association. After examining the objections which had been made, and not thinking them sufficient to ground a rejection upon, the said church was admitted. Nevertheless the Association disapprove of multiplying churches by dividing those already established, without evident necessity; and also of any one minister by himself undertaking to constitute a church.[237] Here was a church division in which one section (probably excluded by the majority pastored by Powell) had formed themselves into another church. At any rate, there is no question of any authority by a mother church and had such been counted necessary by this body, it would certainly have been brought forward by the objectors. The Association opposes “multiplying churches by dividing those already established” “and of any one minister by himself undertaking to constitute a church.” But they recognize it as a church which eliminates EMDA as a doctrine of this Association! John Spilsbury’s Church is another example: The church, considering that they were now grown very numerous, and so more than could in those times of persecution conveniently meet together, and believing also that those persons acted from a principle of conscience and not from obstinacy, agreed to all them the liberty they desired, and that they should be constituted a distinct church; which was performed Sept. 12, 1633. And as they believed that baptism was not rightly administered to infants, so they looked upon the baptism they had received at that age as invalid, whereupon most or all of them received a new baptism. Their minister was a Mr. John Spilsbury.[238] This account sounds like EMDA and would be claimed by them as an example of their position but for one thing. What is that? This was a Protestant church! Those who had become Baptists in principle, who wished to leave because they had come to see the essential nature of immersion for baptism, requested of the church they were then members of—the mother church(!)–authority to constitute a new church. But it is impossible, that they thought this was essential to constitute, but only they wanted to leave that church under good terms! This demonstrates how asking permission for a constitution has been misunderstood by EMDA advocates. Have I met the challenge set forth? In the next chapter we will take up Baptist testimony on the subject of church constitution. [217] Milburn Cockrell. SCO, p. 84. [218] John T. Christian, History of the Baptists. Vol. II, 333. [219] J.J. Burnett, Tennessee’s Pioneer Baptist Preachers, p. 62. It is surprising that Bond is not mentioned in The Baptist Encyclopedia. [220] Milburn Cockrell, SCO, p. 7, 42, 44, 45, 49, 50, 53, 62,79, 86, 89.
[221]
Z.T. Leavell & T.J. Bailey. A Complete History of
[222]
C.H. Mattoon. Baptist Annals of
[223] Ibid. At first, none had letters, but were to get them as soon as practicable.
[224] John T.
Christian. History of Baptists, vol 2, p. 74.
[225] Goodall came
from Kiffin’s church; Turner and Lambert were members of a church in Dartmouth,
England. [226] David Benedict. History of The Baptists, p. 383. [227] Ibid. 383. Italics are Benedict’s.
[228] Cf. Isaac
Backus, History of the Baptists of New England, Vol. 1, p.288; David Benedict,
History of the Baptists, Vol. I, p. 383-384. [229] Acts 11:1-2. [230] Baptist churches are now pretending they can do this as well as rescind what they have done years before! One church in the south rescinded the call of a pastor who had been pastoring the church for about three years. Why? Because he did not believe in EMDA! Amazingly, they then called a man as pastor who had been baptized by the pastor whose call they rescinded! They failed to recognize, that even if a church could scripturally do such a thing Band I do not believe it can–their action made null and void every thing the pastor had done.They rescinded all the ordinances, acts of worship, and every official act of the church while this man was pastor! Popery pleads for no more. It is just a step to rescind things which took place 1000 years ago! [231] Matt. 18:20. [232] Cf. also Acts 11:12.
[233]
“And when he had landed at Caesarea, and gone up, and saluted the church, he
went down to
[234] Milburn Cockrell, SCO, p. 81; 7 Questions on Church Authority. “If one establishes a church without authority from another church, he acts without Scriptural authority. Thus he works in vain for the Holy Spirit is only given to a church on the consent of another church, as it was in Samaria.” p. 28. [235] Acts 9:31.
[236]
Minutes of the
[237] Op. Cit., p. 281.
[238]
David Benedict. History of the Baptists, p. 337. Cf. Ivimey, Hist. Of
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