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Landmarkism Under Fire
A Study of Landmark Baptist
by Elder J.C. Settlemoir
Appendix V. – “ Just as Roman Catholics say they have a list of popes all the way
back to Peter, some EMDA[598]
advocates, publish a list which attempts to show a link by link connection of
churches all they way back to Jesus on the mount. This is frequently called the
Dyer to Jerusalem list because Bro Roy Mason’s copy gave the first link
as Dyer, Baptist Succession Back To Christ Link One. The Baptist church at Dyer, Link Two. Hillcliff church, Link Three. Hillcliff church was organized by
Aaron Arlington, A. D. 987. See Alex Munston’s Link Four. Lima Piedmont church ordained Aaron Arlington in 940. See Jones’ Church History, p 324. Link Five. Lima Piedmont church was organized by Balcolao, A. D. 812. See Neander’s Church History, vol. 2 p. 320. Link Six. Balcolao came from the church at
Timto, Link Seven. Timto church was organized by Archer Flavin, A. D. 738. See Mosheim’s History, vol. 1, p. 394 Link Eight. Archer Flavin came from the Darethea
church, organized by Adromicus, A. D. 671, in Link Nine. Andromicus came from Pontifossi. At
the foot of the Alps in Link Ten. Pontifossi church was organized by
Tellestman from Link Eleven. Turan church was organized by Tertullan
from Bing Joy, Link Twelve. Tertullan was a member of the Partus
church at the foot of the Link Thirteen. Polycarp was baptized by John the Beloved or Revelator on the twenty-fifth of December, A. D. 95. See Neander’s Church History, p. 285. Link Fourteen. John was with Jesus on the Mount. Mark 3:13-14; Luke 6:12-13.[599] In October, 2004 while I was with Bro Royce Smith in a Bible
Conference in Choctaw, There are some differences between Bro Mason’s copy and that in The Baptist
Messenger. Two of the more significant differences pertains to the place
and the person of the first link. Bro Mason’s copy in link one reads “The
Baptist church at Dyer, This Dyersburg to Jerusalem list has been adopted, edited, amended, and adapted by several different churches and church groups[601] since it first appeared in 1922 and was made famous by Bro Roy Mason’s book.[602] He says it also appeared in other papers about this time. Some competent men, believe this list is a fraud. Bro. Davis Huckabee said: Subsequent to obtaining this supposed succession there came into this writer’s possession most of the historical references supposedly proving this succession, and these were all checked for authenticity. Yet, in not a single instance excepting the first and last ones has this been possible. In all of the historical references, not one of them, nor any of the numerous other historical references possessed referred to a single one of the churches, places, or persons mentioned..... Thus, it appears that this supposed church succession is a fraudulent one without basis in fact.[603] Is the Dyersburg to Jerusalem list a fact or a fiction? Is it verifiable? I too believe this list is counterfeit. There are several things about this list which indicate it is fraudulent but what most impels me to this conclusion is the internal evidence of the document itself. For example. There is a reference in Link 12 to Tertullian. For the
source it gives Armitage’s History of the Baptists, p. 181. This
reference is there and on the right page (the only reference in this list that
I have been able to locate) but the things attributed to Tertullian are
actually referring to Hippolytus![604]
The unknown author transposes the information about Hyppolytus to Tertullian![605]
Note that Armitage says it is the church at Yet, in spite of this significant error which cannot be reconciled with the facts, preachers and churches continue to publish this list![608] I believe some men have recognized the problems in this list and have tried to fix them as there are several versions of it. Some have changed the names. Some have changed the references. Some the dates–but no matter what they do they cannot find the quotes referred to in these various books! Some have edited and adapted it to try to make it more acceptable.[609] Why were these changes made? Did those who made these changes have sources to verify these changes? J.B. Jetter is said to have organized the church in Another error in this list is reporting that the Hillcliff church
is in The quotes made in the Dyersburg to Jerusalem list also indicate this list is a hoax. Take the quote from Jones History. [620] Why is no volume number given to Jones History, which is usually a two volume set? Why can’t this reference be found? Does Jones ever mention Aaron Arlington? The reference in Jones remains as illusive as Atlantis. Bro Moore says: “That statement does not appear on page 324, or anywhere else in Jones’ History.”[621] He also says: Of the histories I have been able to check, not one them has the entry that is cited. That fact leads me to this conclusion: that someone has fabricated this pedigree and it is as phony as a three dollar bill.[622] I am aware of the argument that there are different editions of Jones and this is the reason the quotes appear to be incorrect. It is Bro Moore’s testimony that not one of these quotes for links 1, 2, 3, 4, and 11 are valid![623] What about the quote from the Minutes of the Philadelphia Association? What is book three? [624] It is interesting that one of the lists given in Scriptural Church Organization[625] has the year H. Roller came to the Philadelphia Association as 1809, which is just two years after the close of the published minutes. There is no reference to H. Roller, J.B. Jetter or J.B. Jeter in the published minutes of this Association. Nor does my edition refer to either book or item numbers.[626] Another link which does not fit the evidence is Link 10. “The In Link five we have this statement: “ Link 13 gives a reference to Neander’s Church History, p. 285 and says that “John the Beloved or Revelator baptized Polycarp on Christmas day, A.D. 95.” Neander gives no such information as far as I can find. He does not say that John baptized Polycarp at all, much less specifying the day[630] with such a modern title[631]! Thus no confidence can be placed in such a list and every reference in the list must be rejected until verified because where one is so ignorant or so careless as in this case with Tertullian, everything is suspect. Thus in spite of this pretended historical array of quotes, the whole thing crumbles when examined. Most of the quotes cannot be found at all! The quotes in this list are simply not there! Bro Huckabee does not put it too strongly when he says: And it is a stretching of possibility beyond reason to think that every one of these references involved a miscopied page number, or a differing page number because a different edition was used, etc. In some of the sources, not even the remotest reference was made to the supposed church or person, though the whole section which covered that time and place in history was read.[632] Some of the men and places mentioned in this book are found no where else![633] In spite of the misinformation and bogus references in this list many men have published this as a viable historical list of their own church history! This raises the issue: was the list prepared as a mimic or merely by someone who was ignorant? Let that be as it may, we know from these facts, herein submitted, which any reader may satisfy himself about, the compiler has made false quotes. The list is a fraud, and those who use it perpetrate error. No church should publish this list until they can verify these quotes. But suppose, for sake of discussion, we accept every link and every reference, then the question becomes, does this list support EMDA? The first thing to note is there is nothingBnot
one word–in this list about EMDA! Take for example Link 2. H. Roller came to
the It is a sham to put forth this list as a valid history of Baptist churches and I believe it greatly detracts from the real perpetuity of the Lord’s churches. Footnotes [598] EMDA, i.e., Essential mother daughter authority. [599] Roy Mason. The Church That Jesus Built, p. 110-111. Bro Mason’s book is on line at: http://gracebaptistchurch1.homestead.com/files/X__Statements_of_Historians1.htm.
[600]
The Editor’s note says: “Dr. Putnam of Tuttle [OK–JC] gave this to Rev. J.E.
Akins, who sends it to the Messenger. The Baptist Messenger. C.P.
Stealey, Editor,
[601]
A wide variety of churches and denominations use this list for their own
purposes. I have seen the following different churches use this list:
[602] Roy Mason. The Church That Jesus Built. [603] Cf. Davis Huckabee. Studies in Church Truth, p. 660; Douglas Moore, Old Landmarkism vs. The Pedigree Pushers, p.10-12.
[604]
Cf. Link 2 . In some editions of this list this reference is in Link 11. This
difference is the result of starting at opposite ends. Bro Mason’s copy started
from Dyer,
[605]
Armitage. History of the Baptists. p. 182 . “The four men who figured
most largely in this century were Tertullian, who labored for the purity of the
Churches; Origen, who blended philosophy with revelation; Cyprian, who
struggled for Episcopal authority; and Hippolytus, who as stoutly resisted
clerical wickedness. We may speak more fully of the last. Hippolytus, A.D.
198-239, was Bishop, probably of the Church at Portus, at the mouth of the
Tiber, and spent the most of his life in and about
[606]
Huckabee’s copy has Partos.
[607]
Coxe, however, quotes some who think Tertullian was not only educated in, but
was also a member of a church in
[608] At a recent Bible Conference, this list came up in discussion with a brother. He told me he asked a man (whom he did not identify) as to whether it was reliable. He asked if the man had checked the references. He had not but said he would. This un-named man then wrote him a letter and stated in that letter, that these quotes were not there. A year or two later, this same man published this list as a history of his church!
[609]
For example: Bing Joy becomes Bing. Timto becomes Tima.
Partus has been amended to read
[610]
Roy Mason. Church That Jesus Built, p. 110. Link # 1. The original list
(Oaklahoma Messenger, 1922) had J.B. Jetter and
[611]
I am convinced the original author of this list meant J.B. Jeter instead
of J.B. Jetter. This would be natural due to J.B. Jeter’s fame as
an author and editor. Cf. Cathcart. The Baptist Encyclopedia. But
I wonder if those who made this change verified it from the original? Did they
just assume the compiler meant J.B. Jeter? It is possible someone may have
found Jeter’s name in church records of
[612]
Link 13. Elder J.B. Jeter, from the Philadelphia Association organized the
[613] William Cathcart. The Baptist Encyclopedia, Art. Jeter, p. 600-601. [614] The published minutes of Philadelphia Association are from 1707 to 1807.
[615]
Cf. Huckabee. Church Truth, p. 659, Link xiii. “J.R. Graves, J.N. Hall,
J.A. Scarboro, were all affiliated with the First Baptist Church of Dyersburg,
Tennessee. Church Minutes,
[616] J.R. Graves began to edit the Tennessee Baptist in 1846. Baptist Encyclopedia, p. 467; J.N. Hall was born in 1849. I do not know the date of J.A. Scarboro’s birth, but he was active when the General Association was formed in 1905. Cf. Bogard’s Life & Works, vol. II, p. 346. [617] Milburn Cockrell. Scriptural Church Organization, p. 95, Link five; Roy Mason. Church That Jesus Built, Link two, p.110.
[618]
James Kenworthy. History of the
[619] Milburn Cockrell. SCO, p. 95, Link 5. [620] Roy Mason. Church That Jesus Built, Link 4. “Lima Piedmont church ordained Aaron Arlington in 940. See Jones’ History, p. 324.” [621] Douglas A. Moore. Old Landmarkism vs. The Pedigree Pushers, p. 12: Link four. [622] Ibid. [623] Ibid.
[624]
A.D. Gillette. Minutes of the
[625] Milburn Cockrell. SCO, p.95- 96, Link 6.
[626]
A.D.Gillette. Minutes of the
[627] The original list spells this name two different ways: Pontafossi and Pontiffossi, links 9 & 10. [628] Cf. Edward C. Starr. A Baptist Bibliography, vol. 17. [629] Roy Mason. The Church That Jesus Built, p. 110. [630] Neander does mention Polycarp a few times in volume one. He says on p. 109 that Polycarp was a disciple of the Apostle John. Again on p. 299 he says: “Polycarp alleged that he himself had observed a passover with the Apostle John, whose disciple he was.” He mentions him in two other places, pp. 465, 651. In the other three volumes, Polycarp is not mentioned at all. I cannot find the quote from this list anywhere. [631]Cf. Schaff. History of the Christian Church, vol. II, pp. 664-670.
[632] [633] I have found no reference to the following men and places except in this list: J .B. Jetter; H. Roller; Aaron Arlington; Balcolao; Archer Flavin; Adromicus; Tellestman; Lima Piedmont; Timto, Asia Minor; Darethea church; Pontafossi in France; Bing Joy, Africa.
[634]
Self constitution as opposed to EMDA was the method used by this Association.
Cf. Chapter 10, and Gillette’s Minutes of the Philadelphia Association, pp 18,
23. Also
[635]
A.D. Gillette. Minutes of the
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